bordering on insanity.

Bordering? At the end, the guy was sitting at a map, moving around, and sending communiques to, commanders, units and divisions that had been wiped out to a man days and even weeks before.
Then, instead of taking the blame for what happened, he put the blame on the millions of Germans who were suffering and who died for believing in him, and wanted literally all of them, the entire nation, to die with him for their lack of will. Then, like the brave, principled man he was, he simultaneously crunched a cyaninde tablet and pulled the trigger on the gun in his mouth. Bordering?

Because we have to believe Hitler was so Anti-Jewish he murdered over 6 million of them, though the Auchwitz Museum curator lowered the death figure by as much as 50%. Instead of the 3.5 million supposedly gassed at Auchwitz the figure was reduced to 1.1 million. They made the correction, not me. I'm just the teacher of facts here. I am curious if anyone here even knew Hitler had great admiration for his Jewish officers.

One thing the Nazis were known for was their meticulous record keeping. If the original number of Jews killed in the Holocaust was 6 million, then it was likely 6 million. And, that was only the Jews. I cannot imagine how the Aushwitz Museum would change the numbers, and you have provided no links. Also, Aushwitz was only one of many death camps that the Nazis maintained. Some were merely death camps, some work camps that killed millions, and then there were the death marches. Six million was probably a conservative estimate.

Besides, whatever the number, the Nazis came very close to exterminating the Jews throughout Europe. Poland, for example, has never recovered the numbers of their Jewish citizens. Poland's had at least one if not two or more million Jews. And, that's only Poland. RH, your numbers are lunacy and insulting revisionist history.

As far as Hitler loving some of his Jewish officers, so fucking what............ They must have been some kind of scum in their own rights to side with him. And, what it shows, as the very least, was Hitler's hypocrisy. Again, insulting revisionist history.

What the hell is wrong with you, that you have to buy into this crap? What the hell are you trying to prove here? That you're some enlightened god-knows-what?

Dubya can never get to the level of Hitler. Hitler was the equivalent of an evil genius, bordering on insanity. Bush is simply a slightly delusional moron.

I disagree with you on two points here, Latour. First, there was nothing "bordering" about Hitler's insanity. He was a raving lunatic. Secondly, I think Bush is a majorly delusional moron, which is why his neocon taskmasters like him so much.

I disagree with you on two points here, Latour. First, there was nothing "bordering" about Hitler's insanity. He was a raving lunatic. Secondly, I think Bush is a majorly delusional moron, which is why his neocon taskmasters like him so much.

I'm so surprised....not.

The whole thing about Hitler's rise to power is that the times created the figure. The simple fact was that a man like Adolf Hitler, in any other time and place, would have come off as a simple crackpot and would likely have been dismissed almost completely by the people.
However, with the terribly punitive conditions, as demanded by France and England, of the Treaty of Versailles in place, Germany was utterly prostrate and directionless. Wilson and, ironically, Winston Churchill, had recommended a more reconcilliatory attitude, but were not listened to.
Germany was humiliated, and reduced to a 100,000 man army and saddled with paying back the entire cost of the war.
The Weimar Republic, the government which took over in the wake of the collapse of the monarchy, was often seen as spineless and collaborationist and was the target of much hatred by the political extremist groups on both sides, including the infant National Socialist German Worker's Party, which had taken root in the postwar chaos.
After a few years of negotiations, however, the republic did manage to get Germany a somewhat better deal.
This was one reason why the Munich "Beer Hall Putsch" of 1923, in which Hitler tried to start his revolution, failed. Hitler was sent to Landsberg prison, where he then had time to write "Mein Kampf", which had the effect of lending him a certain legitimacy he hadn't had before, and of getting his name out in the public. The fact that virtually nobody had never actually read it was unimportant. Everyone owned a copy; that was what mattered.
He came out of prison and found the Nazi party disorganized and demoralized, and set about rebuilding the party.
Under his evil genius, which included a talent for giving people jobs for which they were particularly suited, an extremely gifted talent for sizing up and charming opponents and of course of oratory, he got things going again.
By 1929, when the Depression hit, casuing again massive inflation in Germany and political unrest, Hitler the Nazis were there to be the calm center of order in the cloudy, stormy political firmament of Germany. Many were attracted by their promises of honor and of bringing back Germany's former greatness. That was why he succeeded in his rise; the times made him.

Hitler didn't really go nuts until about 1944, after the bomb plot failed. It was all down hill from there. Up till then, he was relatively sane, actually.

Hitler didn't really go nuts until about 1944, after the bomb plot failed. It was all down hill from there. Up till then, he was relatively sane, actually.

Say what??? He may have had a breakdown after 1944, but before then, he was a delusional paranoid maniac. Sounds pretty insane to me.

My point is that he was at least relatively coherent and cognizant up to that point; when he realized that his own people had tried to kill him, that was the turning point.

 

 

 

Why blow the dust off of this joke of a thread?

Thanks Mason!

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